Tim White
(“Sightings Host”)
It was the show that dared to go where no other show would go.
That show was “Sightings”.
If you ever watched the show you know exactly what I’m talking about.
“Sightings” was regarded as the leading authority on paranormal and
supernatural investigation and television’s primary source for exploration
into the unknown.
Tim White was the Host of “Sightings”. It almost goes without
saying that Tim’s hosting duties played as much of a part in the show’s
success as the stories themselves.
Tim White spoke with me about his background and the show in 1998.
Q – To host a show like “Sightings” is
it necessary to believe all of the stories that are featured?
A – No. To be a priest I think it’s necessary to believe everything
you say. To be the host of a program, especially if you’re a journalist
is to turn your interest and your journalistic skill and whatever intelligence
you may have on to each subject and say let’s find out what the story
is here. I think the difference between “Sightings” and the other
shows is that we weren’t out to persuade people of anything. We were
out to present as much information as we could find and let people make up
their own minds. My job wasn’t to stuff the paranormal down peoples’ throats.
It was to put in front of them things they may not have thought about before,
that they may not have thought about in that way before and present some new
information and then let them make up their own minds. To a lot of people U.F.O.’s
for instance are delusional balderdash and always will be figments of the imagination
of some very gullible people. To others, they are here, they are real-----and
they are now!! In between are all kinds of people who don’t know what
they think about them.
Q – Before hosting the show, what were your feelings
about topics such as U.F.O.’s? What group did you fall into?
A – I tended to fall into the group that said it was all a bunch of nonsense.
I was cynical. I said this is left over bad mushrooms from the 60’s affecting
most of these people. But, of course I hadn’t looked at it very closely
either. It was easy to be non chalant, easy to be dismissive, but, then as
I came more closely in touch with information I hadn’t seen before, stories
I hadn’t seen before, met people such as Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, and Edgar
Mitchell, both of whom walked on the moon and others who’ve had a really
expansive view of what might be possible in our physical and spiritual universe-----I
started to open my mind up. So, I would say in the course of doing “Sightings”,
I went from being a cynic to a skeptic. If you think about it, that’s
a change in attitude. I’m open to a lot of things I wouldn’t be
open to before this.
Q – I’m not sure you realize this, but, your
voice is as recognizable with “Sightings” as Robert Stack’s
is to “Unsolved Mysteries”.
A – That’s what I gather at supermarkets from time to time. People
will look up and say, “Oh, Sightings”. (Laughs).
Q – How did you get the job to host “Sightings”?
A – I was a News Anchor in Washington, D.C. I got a call out of the blue
from Henry Winkler who was doing a special for Fox and I was anchoring a Fox
station. He said we’ve looked at a lot of tapes and we’re doing
a special and we’d like you to host it for us. I said well, that’s
very nice, what’s it about? He said, well, it’s gonna be good.
We’re gonna take a really journalistic approach and it’s a difficult
subject and we’re gonna do a First Class job. I said, yeah, but Henry
what’s it about? He said it’s gonna be terrific. What’s it
about? He said it’s about U.F.O.’s. I said I’m not interested.
I could care less. Then we talked about it further and he said we really are
gonna approach it in a way it hasn’t been approached. We’re gonna
approach it as story in news; what’s known, what’s not known. Who’s
willing to speak to the issues? What are some of the alternative explanations?
Then you let people make up their own mind. So, on that basis I said well,
o.k. Not to mention the fact that I got a nice trip out to California. That
was fine. The Special that we produced in ’91, that aired in the Fall
of ’91, was terrific. It was really good. It was really well done, and
would hold up even today. That’s how it all started.
Q – You do point fingers at official government
programs. Has anyone ever tried to shut down “Sightings”?
A – They haven’t tried to shut down the program and they haven’t
tried to shut down me. I spend a lot of time in Washington, D.C. and no one
has ever suggested that I not ask a question or that we should no pursue anything.
As a matter of fact, a lot of people who have a history of working in the government
and the military will say do you really think you’re onto something?
What do you know about this stuff? Information to the extent it exists, is
pretty fragmented I think. Unlike the X-Files I don’t think there’s
one file where all truth resides. It’s pretty well scattered across the
country side. As far as the government with holding information; of course
there are many classified things. There’s much that the government won’t
tell us. There’s much they probably can’t tell us for reasons of
classification and I can understand that. If you go back to the 70’s
and 80’s when they were testing the Stealth aircraft clearly if you saw
one of those F-117 fighters in the early 1980’s, you would’ve been
certain you were looking at a flying saucer. It was a highly classified issue
and I’ll tell you there are a lot of Americans alive today because we
had stealth technology that could get us into Baghdad and out without losing
a bunch of our pilots. This is a very important point: we on “Sightings” have
never compromised classified material. We have never accused the government
of lying. When the Air Force came out with it’s story about crash dummies
being thrown out of balloons at 50,000 feet in 1953 and that explains the alien
sightings, if it took ‘em 50 years to come up with that story, somebody
was asleep at the switch.
Q – What if the government would acknowledge the
existence of U.F.O.’s, would that lead to world-wide panic?
A – Well, I can’t predict what would happen. I think the first
responsibility of government is the maintenance of order and the protection
of it’s citizens orderly lives. The suggestion that there is intelligence
that supersedes our own walking among us, says that the government can’t
control a thing, can’t maintain order. (Laughs). A worldwide panic? I
don’t know. I think people are pretty mature. I think they could probably
handle it.
Q – Why at this particular time in history is there
such interest in the paranormal and supernatural?
A – It has to do with the pace of life today. We’ve been so surrounded
by technology and mechanisms that sort of separate us from another and nature.
There’s something in us that longs for a spirituality, a sense of the
unknown, a sense of something larger than ourselves and our cars and our credit
cards. Some people feel that’s based with conventional religious pursuits
which is why there is a religious revival in this country. There are more people
going to church than in any other Western civilization. Other people seek it
in ways that look inward and outward. They’re looking for something that
lends a sense of themselves being connected to a universal hole. I think whether
you’re talking about quantum mechanics with Stephen Hawking or you’re
talking about life extension our you’re talking about the melding of
technology and biology, we look for possibilities that lie beyond simply living,
consuming and dying. I think that’s one of the reasons this material
has become so popular.
Q – Have you ever seen a ghost or a U.F.O.?
A – To my knowledge, I’ve never seen a ghost I, like all people
sometimes sense non-physical presence about me, and wonder about the limits
of coincidence. How could I have known that so and so was going to walk around
the corner? What was that dream I had the other night that pointed me in a
certain direction? As far as U.F.O.’s-----no. I was in the military and
spent a lot of time around airplanes. I did, in Mexico City have one experience
with some other producers of a light phenomenon which was very hard to explain
which is what most people see when they’re seeing U.F.O.’s. But,
I wouldn’t say that I saw a craft from another dimension or another universe.
I saw a phenomenon that none of us could explain. That was happening in Mexico
City on a regular basis at that time.
Q – In the daytime too as I recall.
A – Yeah. In the daytime too. This was at night. During the daytime you’re
absolutely right.
Q – “Sightings” has spawned some imitators
out there hasn’t it?
A – Yeah. But, they didn’t last very long did they?
Q – I think “The Unexplained” has been
on for awhile.
A – If it’s the one I’m thinking of “The Unexplained” is
a re-cut of an Australian series. They all kind of sound alike to me, but,
there’s been a whole slew of ‘em as you know that have sort of
imitated the “Sightings” content, but, then they would try to hype
it up and be breathless about monsters dripping with saliva from their teeth
and so forth. And, they didn’t last very long, ‘cause people don’t
want to have this stuff shoved down their throats. People are smarter than
that.
Q – Could “Sightings” take up the cause
of those who believe more people were involved in the Oklahoma City Bombing?
Could you do segments on those kind of stories?
A – I’ll tell you why that would be a problem. That would be a
problem because then we would lapse into the conspiracy theorists realm. You
couldn’t avoid it. It would be how many people were on the Grassy Knoll
in Dallas in 1963? You would quickly go down what I see as a slippery slope.
You would then be like a lot of other t.v shows going for a quick pop in the
ratings with the implication that there’s something sensational in what
you’re going to report but it’s not really there. I would resist
that approach. You could. It’s an interesting idea, but, I think it’s
another show. You’re talking about variable perceptions, the way in which
things are seen and reported. I do think there is an opportunity to present
a bunch of unheard voices about difficult questions, whether it’s the
Grassy Knoll or the Oklahoma City Bombing. I’ll tell you who does that
sort of thing is Bill Kurtis on Investigative Reports and does a pretty good
job of it. I personally have a very high regard for Bill and that series. The
kind of things that you’re indicating are the kinds of things that Investigative
Reports would pick on at some point or another.
Q – Is it difficult to find good stories to report
on?
A – When we started doing this program in 1991 as a special, we were
all convinced that we wanted the program to be a success, but, if they ask
us for a second special, we’d never be able to find the stories to do
it. They did ask for a second special. We did it. It got higher ratings than
the first one which was the highest rated special in the history of Fox to
that point. Within a year, we were doing weekly shows and realized there was
so much more out there that we had barely scratched the surface. Is it difficult
to find stories? Yes. Is it impossible? No. Do you sometimes start down a road
on a story that you have to turn around and come back on? Yes. We put a lot
of time and effort into some stories that we just decided there was fraud or
delusion involved and we backed out completely.
Q – How long does it take to put one of these 2
hour specials together?
A – Oh. it’s a massive effort on the part of a really talented
staff. The Senior Producer of the show, Stephen Kroopnick is just a master
of assembling bright people who go out under the direction of the Research
Director Jonathan Gerald who’s one of the smartest guys I’ve ever
known in my life. They’ll put 6 months into it. Three months in development
and three months in production. They might be working on other things at the
same time, but, these things don’t happen overnight. There’s a
lot of very deliberate, very careful effort that goes into these things. So,
I would say that each 2 hour special you’re looking at has been worked
on for 6 months anyway. And, in some cases, even longer, like the interview
with Stephen Hawking. It takes a long time to set up an interview with Stephen
Hawking. You’ve got to get those requests in early.
Q – At one point, “Sightings” was running
on a C.B.S. affiliate station here in Syracuse on a Sunday night at 11:30
pm. What time was it airing on other stations throughout the U.S.?
A – Well, let’s back-up a step. “Sightings” started
out on the Fox Network. It basically created in 1991, 1992, the time slot on
Friday nights that the X-Files came into in ’93. It had pretty darn good
ratings I must say. So, basically “X-Files” followed us into that
Friday night time slot. Then we went from network to first run syndication
where we were for two or two and a half years. It’s hard to put a calendar
on some of these things. First run syndication means it’s sold to the
highest bidder in each market who can then put it on whenever they choose.
The C.B.S. affiliate in Syracuse was obviously the high bidder for the show
and they could put it on at 11:30 at night on Sunday if they wanted to. It
might be on an N.B.C. affiliate in Detroit at 6 o’clock at night on Sunday.
When they buy a syndicated program they put it on when it suits their programming
needs. It makes it a little hard to find but market to market it fairs pretty
well. Then in 1996, it moved to the Sci-Fi Channel.
Q – And why did it move to the Sci-Fi Channel?
A – (Laughs). There’s a very easy answer. It has to do with who
owns what. Viacom Corporation owns Paramount. Paramount owns “Sightings”.
Viacom also owns the U.S.A. Sci-Fi Cable Networks. They said you know what
we need on our Sci-Fi Channel to help beef up the ratings? We need an established
hit and here’s one right here!! We’re gonna move “Sightings” over
there. So, that’s what they did.